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SURFING CHATROOM - THERE IS NOW A CHATROOM FOR SURFERS, SPONGERS AND OTHER WAVE CRAFT ON MSN CHAT, WWW.MSN.CO.UK, CLICK ON 'PEOPLE AND CHAT' AND THEN SPORTS, THE ROOM IS CALLED 'WAVE SURFING CENTRAL CHAT' PLEASE SUPPORT IT IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE, CHAT AWAY, THANKS.
By Mr. Dick Mann
You can't have it both ways - "Your spot" doesn't break good that often, at least not during the non-winter months. Undoubtedly you surf other places, probably beaches south or north, at those times. I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this. Of course beaches handle crowds far better than single-take-off-point reefs. - - - The issue is propriety. When it's crowded, who is the intruder and who gets to cry foul? - - - When you go away to college and come back for Christmas break, all of a sudden you're the intruder. You grow up, buy your own house in the area, don't have time to surf anymore, want to surf again, buy a longboard to get started - surprise! - little screaming images of yourself at 17 suddenly appear to remind you of how absurd localism is. Of course you're young and you'll never get older. You'll never be 54 and have a realistic perspective on life. It just won't happen, will it? - - - Sorry to unload on you little amigo, I know you just want to surf in peace. The thing is, so did the other 7 guys.
no title - la surfer guy i just dont want anymore people coming to my spot this weekend there were 8 guys out. i dont want abalone to turn into hags so thats why we dont want any more people got it!
By Mr. Mann 2
you have no advertising - who is backing your bullshit?I don't believe the unique hit numbers your posting.I don't think you will find second level funding.You need a better graphic designer.Don't quit you day job.
By Hollywood Riviera
It's Official - Lunada is Open to Visitors - The City of Palos Verdes Estates has reportedly adopted a policy of encouraging and protecting visitors to their landmark surfing spots. Apparently the police already have a file of all of the hostile "locals" including photographs. If you get harassed you can just drop by there on the way out of town and file a report on persons already known. Now if that's not encouraging, what is?
By Henry Cowell
Go surf Lunada - It's a lot friendlier now - I just got an email from a friend who visited Lunada Bay on a decent swell. He surfed for three hours without so much as a cross look! He said it was one of the best sessions of his life (He's from Florida). It was his first time out there! Maybe the infamous Bad Boys have grown up at last!! Go check it out and post your findings!!
By Mr. Mann
PV secret spots between Indicator & Lunada - From upper Indicator, the spots heading south towards Lunada are: >>Charlies - a nice little low tide left >>Turbos - A hot left on a shelf reef, high tide (some kids have been known to call it "Charlies Point") Turbos often picks up more swell than the other lefts in the area and can have head-high waves when Indicator is just chest high. Easily blown out. >>Pipes - Another high tide left, insane lined-up barrel. More fickle than Turbos but more perfect when it's on. >>Longs - a right-hander, can get good. >>TA's - Very localized little peak, usually not very good considering the local frenzy that surrounds it. More or less at the foot of Dominator point. >>Dominators - Big left point with a huge, harrowing left out towards the end - good only on huge WNW swells. Rocks very scary at low tide. Has an inside little wave called Ganjas which picks up some of the smaller swells. Big local secret here: Dominator's breaks on the biggest SW swells and is pretty good. PV has a reputation as a no-SW area because of Catalina blocking. Dominators is the main exception. I've seen Indicator break on a big SW as well, but Dom's is the best of the (very infrequent) bunch. Make no mistake, these don't compare to the big Pipeline-like winter lefts, but it is good to know that it's there. There's one more spot left before Lunada: >>Truck Drivers - More or less deep Lunada Point. Sort of the right behind the right. Often breaks as a completely separate wave and occasionally with no one on it, compared to the feeding frenzy at the famous right-hander it's next to. Often there's good reason because it can be pretty sketchy. As with all PV reefs, big swells tend to make things work best, but perfect little swells can light up all of the nooks and crannies. NOTE: All of the above are localized waves. Get to know the area, get familiar with the waves and don't be too put off by one or two local "incidents". Many more good days stand in store! The PV guys in general get a bad rap because of the immaturity of a very few. People are people. Get to know them.
no title - Once this one time at new break... by firstname.lastname@example.org 18 Mar 2002 ...I saw two dorks with trick sticks and sponsors roll (full-on nazbos) out to newbreak--line up with the locals and start pickin' off nice waves. I, being raised in Oxnard, have very real world experience with the fact that you respect locals and older guys no matter where you're at. I was happy to shag a few that slipped through the crowd. One of the dorks dropped in on a guy who looked like santa claus. Santa got pissed and on the next wave his buddy went entirely out of his way to run over the dork as he paddled back out. Dork1 was bleeding, Dork2 started yelling at Santa. Santa gave him his present early that year. I was amused, and happy that they got out of the water, because the color of their wetsuits was hurting my eyes. moral of the story: probably shouldn't surf there unless your brother works on a fishing boat, your sister works at pt. loma seafood, and they know your name at nico's. Im 30 Jan 2002 My name is chaz and im from Hawaii and i had all this time on my hands so i made the message board a little more interesting...when i first heard of the banas story i searched on the web and searched for lunada and palos verdes..i found this message board and so i made up a few names, borrowed a few and created chaos..i made a certain guy really pissed..ie: dago..whatever..im just a grommet and he cant touch me cause im under 18.. Anyway..i made up "weeker"..someone else made "weaker"..weeker is a guy that my older brother told me about who he is friends with..so i guess weeker is a bay boy or something..not sure..so i also made up "Trip McNeily"..if youve ever seen "Can't hardly Wait" the movie you'll recognize this one..and i made up "Jack Daniels" which is actually a popular tennesee whiskey..and i borrowed "alex gray, joe bark, and chris bredesen" who are actual people...all i did was go to nssa.org and searched for palos verdes and i found holly beck, gray and bredesen's names...ive heard of joe bark because hes a popular shaper from palos verdes..i didnt mean to ruin his respectable reputation...also Paul hill was made up from just "Paul" a common name and "hill" ie: the hill or palos verdes rich neighborhoods..anyway i apologize for my actions because i know they were wrong so im sorry and i think the localism at pv is bad so please forgive me..sincerely chaz from hawaii..a local grom on the north shore with nothing to do.. Indeed Ted by DAGO@SAN.RR.COM 24 Jan 2002 I am one of the infamous South Mission Pounders. And yes, we have declared war on these surf terrorists. Come on, this is bullshit. DAGO aint fucking around anymore. I've surfed my whole life at some of the roughest spots in DAGO and North Baja and I have never encountered anything more than vibing and some name calling. Never have I had some punk ass kids throw rocks at me and tell me to leave their wave. This has gone too far and it's time someone stands up and puts their foot down. Surfs up, Fists up by TedMalibu 24 Jan 2002 When are going to unleash a serious woopass on those Rich fags? I cant wait, you punks are fucking with the wrong guy. If this is THE DAGO who used to surf South Mission Jetty, then you PV LOcals got another thing comming. Rack it, Pack it now PV Rich kids, or suffer the consequences... Lunada is ours now! by DAGO@SAN.RR.COM 23 Jan 2002 EVERYONE WHO IS GOING NEEDS TO EMAIL ME ASAP BECAUSE THERE IS A SWELL LINED UP FOR NEXT WEEKEND. DAGO@SAN.RR.COM I'VE GOT EVERYTHING READY, I JUST NEED THE REST OF THE GUYS FROM STRAND AND SMELL A TO CONTACT ME. LET'S GO SURFING !!!!!!! by STOP PV BS !!!!!!!!!!! 22 Jan 2002 Well alrighty then, Let's get the ball rolling here! All concerned surfers and citizens need to meet up in Palos Verdes on the NEXT swell to show our solidarity! Anyone who has ever surfed PV or would like to, let's get together at Lunada and Indicator and let these selfish bastards know how we feel! The bay boys could use some lessons on manners, and we could show them how to tube ride while we're at it! Come on people, time has come! Dirty Underwear Gang by anonymous 22 Jan 2002 Palos Verdes is home of a bunch of punk ass rich kids. They will try and give you problems, but won't back their shit up worth a damn. They are just a bunch of fucking pussies. Once again WEAKER by email@example.com 22 Jan 2002 WSR, DAGO MOB and about a million other people would like to come up there and show you what localism really is. Like i've said, Prepare for WAR, We Are Ready. And you've asked us to bring it and I can assure you that we will. You fucking kooks are surf terrorists. I am going to turn this shit around on you and show you kids what 20 years of harassment and ass beatings feels like. You guys are going to regret ever fucking with Brother Banas and his son. You guys throw your rocks and I will throw mine. Get ready for war because ALL OF SD, LA and OC will be there to back us up. Watch your back.Surf etiquette < Previous Article | Next Article > Writing the Unwrittens: Surf Etiquette for Beginners Author: Nathan MyersPublished on: February 1, 2000 Related Subject(s): Surfing -- Miscellanea The rules of surfing are eternally unwritten. They undulate from break to break like the surface of the water, but like the water, they adhere to the laws of nature - the delicate balance between gravity and surface tension. There are no referees in the water. There are no cops, supervisors, principals or mommies to run to when things go wrong. Surfers conduct themselves by a loose set of principles, which get passed down through the generations the way a mother bird teaches its young to fly, by nudging them out of the nest. I can only tell you enough so that you can venture into the water and begin learning for yourself. Feel the rules. In the line-up, the vibe will tell you what's going on. The breeze will tell whether it is a day for sharing waves, or every-man-for-himself. Close your eyes and you will know whether it is a day for solemn silence, or a day to hoot and shout. The vibe will tell you.You'll know when you know. You will.Until then, remember this...RIGHT OF WAY belongs to the surfer closest to the peak of the wave. Never drop in when somebody else is dropping in or surfing closer than you to the breaking part of the wave. WHEN PADDLING OUT, the surfer on the wave has the right of way. Get out of his way. You might ruin his ride, or you might get a skag in your melon. You are at fault if you get in the way and deserve to be hit.NO COMPLAINING. No bitching, moaning, whining, belly-aching, or crying about the waves, the other surfers, your boss, or whatever. Shut up. Nobody wants to hear it. THE BEST SURFERS ride the most waves, just as the big fish eats the most food and the small fish must struggle to survive and get bigger themselves. Leave your credentials on the beach. The ONLY thing that matters in the line-up is surfing ability. SURF HIERARCHY extends to breaks as well. The best surfers surf the best spots. Don't try to learn on a world-class wave, you won't even get a chance. If you feel intimidated in the water, go somewhere else. There's bound to be a better learner spot. On beach breaks, the good surfers will convene on the best sand-bar, but there are usually plenty of other sand-bars for beginners to practice getting sucked over the falls. NO LITTERING. Never, ever. Not in the water, not in the parking lot, not on the way to the beach. No cigarette butts, no beer cans, no granola bar wrappers, no lint from your pocket, nothing, nada, zip. Somebody WILL kick your ass. Don't mess with the animals either. You are in their house. The beach is surfing's sacred temple. Treat it accordingly. KNOW YOUR LIMITS. Surfing looks easy from the shore. It isn't. Big surf will kick your ass. It will drown you dead. Don't be a coward, but don't be dumb. If you feel you're in danger, you are. Leashes: Are to be used as a last resort. You must hold and control your board first without bailing out and letting your cord . There are laws against the unsafe handling of surfboards where you can be arrested for failing to control your board. Bailing out into the white water on close outs is a lame way to get out: grab your board instead. Why cant the ASP reduce scores for surfers who do this?Bailing out: If you cannot hold on to your board while caught inside, you are over your abilities and you should go in. If it is too big for you to control your board then you are putting others at risk you stupid yuppie.Longboards: If everyone else is surfing a critical spot and shredding on shortboards, don’t come out on your moving sidewalk. Especially if you cannot control your sidewalk.Wipeouts: if you are not making 90% of your waves you are not surfing correctly. Either leave or surf in a manner where you can actually make the wave.Snaking: Do not try to take off behind other surfers if you are visiting. Your leash does not make you a better surfer and allow you to snake.Visiting new spots: Do not paddle out and position yourself behind everyone else. You need to prove yourself as a respectful surfer. Doing this will only make you a target for abuse. Take scraps until you understand what is going on. At some spots, you will not get waves but remember you are a visitor and respect the better surfers. You would not get away with this in the Islands or Indo so don’t do it here.Don’t assume you know what is under the water before you bail. If you don’t know what’s underwater, it is stupid to do a head first bail when you do one of your leash bails.
By Mr. Mann
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