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Surfing in Bali/Indonesia - 2009/06/17 19:31 Please everyone listen with an open mind-I am not here to offend anyone, but I will speak honestly. Surfing is or has gotten totally out of hand in Bali and Indonesia, especially with the influx of "Surf Camps"( and I dont mean Gland). Many of these Surfcamps are designed to get surfers with little experience in surfing advanced waves, some of the folks going to these surf camps are complete beginers. I am all for people Learning to surf, and coming to bali to surf, but to do so in a responsible manner. Some of these surf camps come to one surf spot with 5 vans full of beginers- 25-30 surfers who then fall in front of you , drop in and basically make the line up a chaotic mess. The "surf guides" are of no help to these situations, they mostly spend their time dropping in on their customers and yelling at us- the expats who live and surf here for years. I can respect anyone who comes to Bali to surf who can handle the conditions and complexities of surfing over reefs and in crowds of mostly advanced surfers. If you cannot do this, then learn to do it before you come. dont think that because you have chosen to go to a surf camp in Bali that now what ever you do will be okay, and that saying your sorry will
be enough for causing a dangerous situation in the water. This is not how the spirit of surfing came to be, or how it will continue. Surf camps in Bali are ripping everyone off who goes to them. If you have the desire to come to Bali
them be good enough to handle it and spend 1/2 the cash by making your own way here. Dont sign yourself up to ride around in some retard van- get a motorbike and find a Losmen and a cheap warung to eat, and you will have a great time + you will be able to stay twice as long or pay 1/2 as much.

This is what surf travel is about- having some sense of adventure, by making your own choices everyday that your on your trip, not being loaded into vans, and messing up other folks surf sessions, cause you just didnt want to take the time or had the guts to do it yourself.

This is just honest words that i hope everyone can take with open minds.
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Re:Surfing in Bali/Indonesia - 2009/06/18 02:28 Does not sound like much fun, same thing happens in Costa Rica, I just move to other spots. Don't know much about Indo but hope your situation improves.
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Re:Surfing in Bali/Indonesia - 2009/06/23 09:35 Kameon,

I agree with you on one section of your complaint - but put inexperienced surfers into crowded and advanced lineup that is just stupid and dangerous. Unfortunately, as you rightly point out alot of people in the surf tourism industry are only out to make a quick penny or two. To them its just about turnover and providing their customer with instant gratification. However, this will eventually lead to someone getting hurt or worse.

I do not agree with having to visit Bali or anywhere else on a shoestring budget. I've surfed all over the world and spend the most of the year working my arse off to afford a certain degree of luxury / comfort when I travel. I do like to explore on my own but I must admit I value my life far more highly than riding a moped in Bali.

Surfguy888
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Re:Surfing in Bali/Indonesia - 2009/06/29 09:50 Fair enough- but riding around in a retard van, with a driver that has less sense than you hardly rates as luxury. You can always get your own driver or split it with a friend. There are plenty of options to these rip off surf camps.
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Re:Surfing in Bali/Indonesia - 2009/06/29 09:50 Fair enough- but riding around in a retard van, with a driver that has less sense than you hardly rates as luxury. You can always get your own driver or split it with a friend. There are plenty of options to these rip off surf camps.
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Re:Surfing in Bali/Indonesia - 2009/12/20 18:31 hello, I read your post, I agree with everything you write, I'd like to go on holiday in Bali in February, would you have any advice for me to save, learn, and not a hazard and nuisance?
thank you
best regards
Franco
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