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Re:THE TRUTH - 2007/03/02 15:04 Bravo!
nice spirit...
it's the same than saying " that average big boat you find outin the lineup I have no love for them. They always come in packs and stay at the inside on the peak and don't share any wave and always dropin'. If I look back and see some Bic longboard coming down the line I'm goign every time..." it's as just stupid as your comment...
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Re:THE TRUTH - 2007/03/04 11:42 Sure, those 2 statements can definitely been seen as congruent-- that is a very nice observation. Being a longboarder, i feel the brunt of your statement on a consistent basis-- although I don't ride a Bic board and don't really fit that description. That is besides the point, but what is true is that everyone has their prejudices out in the water. You can be naive and say that everyone just gets along out in the water-- but you would also be making a rather inane comment. I wish everyone would just "all get along," but that just doesn't happen. Having grown up in the LA area and having been subjected to crowded conditions from an early age, you have to snap into reality if you really want to get any waves.

It's all about anaylzing the line-up. If you really want to get the most out of a session, you really have to evaluate what kind of people are around you. If someone can hold their own (to me this consists of ONLY making the wave semi-consistently, and thats not a lot to ask) and they're deeper than me, I have no problem letting them go everytime. If i do look back, however, and I see someone who has conistently missed waves/ falls on the take off/ goes straight/ whatever, then I don't see the problem in going on them. You can be Mr. Nice Guy and let them blow a wave and have it go unridden, or you can be assertive and go. You may say its being mean, but I think of it more along the lines of little thing called being rational.

Now, how this comesback to the sponges. I don't have a problem that they ride a bodyboard; infact, more power to them. To each their own. But when it comes to a "me or them" situation, I have no problem going. I know that is a rather brazen statement, but it is a sentiment that did not just develop over night. I have surfed with them endless amounts of times, and I have noticed that not only do they not usually make any sort of section, but they really show no respect. OK, go ahead and shed a couple of tears because I'm making a sweeping generalization, but I have found it all too true. You really have to surf with them for a longtime to develop this kind of perception.

I don't know if you have noticed it or not, but I have not once advocated my views. It is how I feel, and the guidelines to which I have conducted myself out in the water. You may feel the way I do about longboarders, shortboarders, kayakers, WHATEVER-- conduct yourself on your own terms because everyone has their prejudices. If the way you act on these prejudices yoruself draws a lot of negative attention to yourself out in the water, however, then I'm sure those actions are pending to change. With my policy, I can honestly say I've never run into any problems and I'll continue to do so even though some people might find it "stupid".
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Re:THE TRUTH - 2009/11/23 08:44 lol at Colectiv what do mean bboarders cant make waves and at alot of places at south coast everyone dose get along and no drops in on someone cause they are less likey to make a wave because of what they ride.
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Re:THE TRUTH - 2009/11/23 21:03 Colective has made some interesting points about general behaviour in the surf which kind of highlights the ugly side of surfing. we are a little behind LA in the uk and only 5 -10 years ago the surf was no where near the insanity it is now.

I Now work 9-5 and only surf at weekends during the winter. Peoples behavious is pretty crap on the whole. When I was a kid there seemed to be a set of rules and a pecking order, now its mob rules with a pretty crappy dog eat dog environment. I have surfed for 25 years and just got sick of the hassle so did other things for a couple of years. started surfing again lately and my local is rammed all year round and there are no concept of rules. Scary.

You seem to take your safety into your own hands every time you paddle out, 2-3 ft I dont even bother, reminds me of some crazy video I watched of surfing in japan years ago where all these guys were just mowing each other over, p*&s funny at the time, never thought it would happen here. Anyone who thinks the surf is this nice fluffy happy place must be a pot head! i go surfing and every wave has some learner guy gung hoing it over the falls?)!It would be funny if it wasnt so annoying.

All of my friends have the same attitude as collective, basically f&*k em. I can't quiet get my head round it, Sure, we all make judgement calls based on what we see. I just hate leaving the surf feeling like a prick! kind of defeats the object for me.

Post edited by: dro, at: 2009/11/23 21:04
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Re:THE TRUTH - 2009/11/24 07:36 The only place i have ever had a shit time and had people drop in on me is narrabeen cause i was bodyboarding and they all think they are kelly slaters. At south coast we still have rules that people go by. At some beaches like bondi u get what u are talking about but most spots around here are pretty chill but people like Colectiv come here and wreak that. I would go out every day if i could. Would hate it to get to what u guys are talkin about.
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Re:THE TRUTH - 2009/11/24 17:06 Colectiv wrote:
I have surfed with them endless amounts of times, and I have noticed that not only do they not usually make any sort of section, but they really show no respect. OK, go ahead and shed a couple of tears because I'm making a sweeping generalization, but I have found it all too true. You really have to surf with them for a longtime to develop this kind of perception.


Oh dear. What kind of wankers are in your line up? I have surfed (yes bboarding is surfing) may places on this globe and anyone who has the balls to paddle out into some big surf generally knows what they are doing and will make whatever section they are going for. That is unless some shitbird who thinks he owns the bloody ocean decides to drop in on them.
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