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Re:sharks avoidance wisdom - 2009/03/15 17:05 the apparent preoccupation with only fatal shark attack stat's is misleading and misrepresents the true impact of shark attacks on humans. of only the three shark attacks which occured either in or very near sydney during february, all occured at either dusk or dawn during low light periods when attacks are well known to be more likely. one of those attacks, by a white, resulted in the loss of the victim's hand and another, by a bull, in the loss of the victim's leg and hand. not fatal but devistating for all those involved.

maybe seppo bull sharks are pussies with their hit and run attitude. ozzie whites, tigers and bulls are not and they generally mean business when they close on a swimmer. in the good old days, when the tigers had plenty of turtles and fish to eat and i was far more reckless than i am now, it was the done thing to surf a very sharky home reef in the relative safety of a clear sunny day with tigers patrolling the channel in crystal clear water. the lure of a three foot groundy warping through the rip in the channel and doubling up over head high over suck rock then pitching me into the spitting barrel along razor's edge with three walling sections waiting to be gouged on the way to the beach was more than anyone could resist. those days are gone because the turtles and the fish are all but gone whilst there's more surfers in the water than ever before.

yes, i'm caught-up in the media hype about shark attacks and that's the case for two reasons: first, i've been way too close to shark attack carnage on several occassions and i don't accept shark attacks must simply be part of the deal and second, i don't want to see sharks victimised as a result of media hype which has ensued given several recent attacks by very hungry sharks which occurded within well know, high risk circumstances.

presently in oz, shark netting and culling are, in general, being phased downwards and more high tech methods are being employed in order to reduce the risk of shark attack. the high tech methods include DNA libraries, tagging programs and population trending and are intended to help identify high risk periods and locations.
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Re:sharks avoidance wisdom - 2009/03/16 02:11 If you don't want to consider shark fatalaties as relevant and want to talk about specific shark attacks in general than i think think you are misleading perople into thinking this is the norm.This is not what happerns in the majority of attacks.You have to consider other areas of the world besides Australia where you have increasing numbers of larger varieties of sharks such as The White,Bull,and Tiger.These are the sharks that cause the most damage.They are larger and go after larger prey but we are not just talking about Australia here we are talking worldwide.Worldwide annually the number of attacks is between 70-80.Out of those the majority are of the hit and run variety which is not missing limbs and the like as you claim.This is exactly why i have been saying that it makes a big difference if you are in an area where those 3 varieties congregate and some sort of monitoring system should be in place so you can be forwarned and forarmed.Carry a speargun or a Dive Knife if you want to surf known danger areas.
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Re:sharks avoidance wisdom - 2009/03/16 17:09 goin for a surf just about anywhere half decent in the southern hemisphere? well, go prepared like lash clone. however, no need to have angst or be armed while surfing in the northern hemisphere because apparently the old world's dangerous shark populations have already been decimated by fish and chip lovers and those few that are left will only suck on your toes. and i thought braces were bad...



Post edited by: element, at: 2009/03/16 18:20
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Re:sharks avoidance wisdom - 2009/03/16 22:51 I never ran into shark problems in 2 years surfing (4 years living) in Peru. I didn't hear about anyone else having problems with them either. It was more than half decent surfing.

The jellyfish do make a pretty big invasion about once a year though. Most aren't so dangerous like in Aus tho.
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Re:sharks avoidance wisdom - 2009/03/16 23:41 peru is a major exporter of shark products including cartlidge powder and fins, maybe that industry is keeping the odds down there?
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Re:sharks avoidance wisdom - 2009/03/17 15:09 Sharking farming is a great idea.

Hi tech solutions & close monitoring of spieces is commendable but how many more are maimed or killed before these are effective.

Australia was alway thought of as 20 years behind USA

There could be a day when surfing armed with spearguns or knives is the norm.

I hope to hell it's not in my life time or in my childrens childrens' childrens.....

I hope to heaven that a paradise on earth does happen in my lifetime.

A "surfers paradise" Why Not????

(I don't see how a weapon would help; it's not like you see them coming...That's like arming the public to deal with terrorism)

How many lives does it take?

There have been 9 Aussies killed in Afganistan since 2001.

I don't believe in war as a solution to anything.

I do believe we have a responsibility to protect innocent lives in all countries and of all nationalities at all times at war as well as in peacetime.

Post edited by: Clarke, at: 2009/03/17 15:13
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